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 Post subject: Re: EDMONTON, ALBERTA (WEBER & NUTRIEN (AGRIUM REDWATER), 2019
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 Post subject: Re: EDMONTON, ALBERTA (WEBER & NUTRIEN (AGRIUM REDWATER), 2019
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 Post subject: Re: EDMONTON, ALBERTA (WEBER & NUTRIEN (AGRIUM REDWATER), 2019
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I will be posting info and pciutres this weekend.

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 Post subject: Re: EDMONTON, ALBERTA (WEBER & NUTRIEN (AGRIUM REDWATER), 2019
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sorry updates coming. just know that Emyrauld and I have been keeping as close tabs as we can
on all. But our eyes are sore, and we are weary. Cams( at all our sites) have really let us down this year. I have binder full of notes and quite a few pictures, but only so many hours in a day, as we do have our regular lives also. bought a recording program to help years ago,
I know that nutrien has a new cam but for some reason has been pixaelating since june29.

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 Post subject: Re: EDMONTON, ALBERTA (WEBER & NUTRIEN (AGRIUM REDWATER), 2019
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finally got. here. It has been a trying year thus far. but we have 3 chicks. late hatches. Emyrauld and i have been watching this site around the clock since cam first went up. but it is challenging. we have had pixelating since june29 , so eyes are gone :girlcrazy:
I am here always for the safety of birds first,
If I cannot see, I cannot notify , if a rescue needs to take place.
So we have worked very hard here this year. kept recording going 24 hours at times. but if stops, freezes, goes off air then all fo r not

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female startled mal e so he put wings up
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male comes in with food, but she takes form him and leaves
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pip in other egg
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cam starts pixelating
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emyraulds pictures she got( it took better part o f day ( due to picture on cam)to confirm what we knew)
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every once you get a 3 second breakthrough
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so both our eyes are sore from squinting and trying to see, but we can tell all 3 are eating thus far.
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yeah :penguin: :penguin:

we have clear picture again. all chicks look good.

will post some more photos later

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 Post subject: Re: EDMONTON, ALBERTA (WEBER & NUTRIEN (AGRIUM REDWATER), 2019
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Clear picture did not last long.

Some Monitor Notes for this afternoon.
Nutrien:
12:40. Kids are sleeping. I think there is a parent in there with them. Hard to say
1:08 I think there might be a feed going on.
1:15 maybe not a feed. I can see a little more now.

Gosh Bev. I have no idea why you are complaining about cams.


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:biggrin: someone else gets it.

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nutrien. july8

and we monitor as best as we can. the server just keeps buffering.
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Nutiren [/b
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big crops
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[b]july 12
( and they grow and are doing well)
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look at those big crops( and on e so stuffed, sh e lies down LOl)
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adult male is a good provider. Here he is bringing in nice prey. He helps out with feedings
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tomorrow I will do a full report on what has happened here.

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I hav e written report and saved it . when I find it , I will post. just wanted to make sure it was 100% accurate

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This is a hard report for me to write. I did not keep up with reporting here as I was noticing, the facts were being twisted elsewhere.
But this report is factual
It has been a wild ride here this year. but this is the way it is in the life of a falcon. It is all about the site. They do not choose their mates, they choose the site. Like it or not it is survival of the fittest or in a lot of cases just ousting.
When things settled down this year , we were off to a late nesting. When Emyrauld and I discovered, through a lot of had work, who was nesting here, we were excited. But we knew we had a young pair and would have to carefully monitor. Sometimes having recorder on for 24 hours ( we do have lives LOL)

this is why reliable cams are so important

This pair proved to be excellent. They took turns incubating. The male brought in small prey and even our female brought in prey at times, while incubating. Learning

She hatched out each chick without any problem. As with any young female, it took her a few feedings to figure it out , but she did. The male always had prey for her . When she left the box, the male was there to oversee the chicks.
As they got older , the male would take his turn at feeding. Because there was usually enough prey , every chick got fed well. Sometimes one would miss a feed, but this is normal.

The kids matured and all was well. WE monitored carefully.

On july18- we noticed , that at 4:29, adult male came in to box with prey to feed. ( kids starting to steal LOl). which was normal , but then he came in again at 5:41pm and at 7:10pm and at 7:45pm and at 8:43pm . Each time he fed. Where was our female. This was not normal

We had not seen her since 11:36am that morning,

Then July19- male was in at 6:41 to feed but only stayed a few minutes , but left prey there. Something was wrong. Our female would not just leave. She would be there if she could.

But what was even stranger is that our male came to box at 9:43 and left.
we had our cams recording 24 hours ( thank goodness we did)
July20
7:56am - no sign of our male. he had been gone since 9:43am the day before. Now remember , we cannot see beyond the box and it is Saturday. the chicks are 22 day old and one 21 days old .
After 8am- the decision was made to remove the chicks. They had not been fed since 6:43am the day before. They were feeding from leftover prey. Some could crack it , some could not. The risk could not be taken as they needed hydration, and it would get hot in box.

RFO Falcon went to site and Peter met him there (it was a Saturday morning). No sign of male, and chicks were removed. Thank you RFO falcon. Peter brought the chicks home and we carefully fed them as they were somewhat dehydrated, till Dr. Court could retrieve them later that day.
The chicks were too young to be taken to hack site so they are with another adult female who has one chick . The next best case scenario :15heartbeat:

They will be taken to hack site when they are old enough.

And yes they were banded , we have one male and 2 females

July 21- male came to box after 3 Am and slept in box till he left at 7:17am . He did try to feed off wing about 5 am and then went back to sleep . we have not seen him on cam since.

We continue to monitor 24 hours a day.

I have never come across this situation in all the years I have been monitoring. YOU will sometimes lose one parent, and the other can take over, . This is a good male and a good female , so it is puzzling.

We have had fierce electrical storms and continual rain. , so one never knows. One thing for sure, the male would have been there if he could have. ( and most certainly, the female would have been also).

So we manged to save 3 chicks. and this is the males site, so he will retain it if possible. There is no reason for him it come to box at present , but if he is there, he will eventually. That is why my cam is recording 24 hours a day. And maybe RFO falcon will see him when he is out and about. He will let me know.

So the monitoring will go on for the next while with hopes of one or both falcons returning. A big thank you to Emyruald and RFO Falcon and Peter for all their help and efforts. Should there be any news, I will update all of you.

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 Post subject: Re: EDMONTON, ALBERTA (WEBER & NUTRIEN (AGRIUM REDWATER), 2019
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Thanks bev. Quite a turmoil. Grateful that you and Peter and Emyrauld (and others) kept a close watch here. And wonderful that the chicks were fostered into another nest.
Always sad to loose an adult during breeding season. And one always keeps wondering what happened when the bird /animal is not found.

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 Post subject: Re: EDMONTON, ALBERTA (WEBER & NUTRIEN (AGRIUM REDWATER), 2019
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OH WOW, Bev....Great report of such strange circumstances. I hate to think what could have happened to the parents during all of this. Thank goodness for all of you who were monitoring and could intervene in order to save these 3 chicks.

:bravo to you all!!!


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Bev thank you so much for the update. I am glad you all were able to help the chicks. :15heartbeat:

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our male turned up at 1:14pm today july29
he cam e in and out again, but remained out side and then cam in again, spent some time , scraped and went out. This i s a good sign. I am so glad to see him

There is no way we can even guess at what has happened. I am just glad we have one adult. we can try and theorize but it will just be guesses. All I know is that they were both good adults and did a great job, and something drastic had to happen that female disappeared and then male. they were both devoted to chicks.
male may have been confused when he saw no chicks, when he came in to feed( they were being banded). With female gone , he may have gone looking for all of them. No way of knowing. When he first came back morning after we took chicks, he may have just been wandering, as falcons do. bu t we will never know.

pictures of male today( I did positively Id him again)
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he scraped in second video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrpkrqt_FZk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0Q07tPcpdg&t=12s

august 2 N17 was in again. so good to see him. He looks so much like his grandfather Bill

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Nutrien august 3,
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7B9W3- ... e=youtu.be

well today N17 brought in a female . Now I know she may just be passing through but this is a Weber girl and is granddaughter of Bill . she was our blue tape girl from 2017 at Weber and we had to rescue her, and she went out to Pembina.
after what we have had this year, it is nice to see a female and to see N17 with a rejuvenation :15heartbeat:

this proves, hacking does work.

N17 to back and sh e is to right

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So the new female is related to N17, they have the same grandfather?
I can understand that you are excited about this [new] female. Getting confirmation that her hacking led to success is always nice.

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