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How about this for a slap in the face!!! :furious:

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Well, it seems like DGIF would want to be involved now more than ever. Are they just fair weather supporters....

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:wavingsnowgiril: Saw this on the CCB Blog, and didnt see any mention of it here. It's very interesting and answers some questions regarding the 2 eagles found dead:

Statement prepared by Dr Bryan Watts, Director of The Center for Conservation Biology, with respect to the death of an adult and a juvenile bald eagle at Norfolk Botanical Garden.


Eagle Mortality Norfolk
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On a global scale, our electrical infrastructure kills millions of birds annually. There are three common
ways that birds are killed when interacting with transmission or distribution lines. The most common of these is referred to as pole electrocution. Birds perching on power poles are electrocuted when they come in contact with two conductors and complete a circuit. To overcome this problem, power companies have retrofitted power poles in areas known to have problems to prevent birds from making these contacts. The second most common cause is referred to as a mid-line electrocution which occurs when a large bird flies through the lines and is able to complete a circuit by touching two wires with its wingtips. The third form of mortality is when a bird flies into lines does not complete a circuit but is killed by the trauma. Bald eagles are particularly vulnerable to mortalities related to the electrical infrastructure because they are large enough to bridge the gap between conductors.

In a recent investigation of 62 eagle mortalities caused by power lines within the upper Chesapeake Bay, Bryan Watts and Libby Mojica from The Center for Conservation Biology determined that both line location and context had a significant influence on the likelihood that they would kill eagles. Lines that are near water or foraging areas are crossed regularly and have a greater likelihood of being problem lines. Lines that are exposed in open areas are much more likely to kill eagles compared to those that are associated with screening vegetation. This is because tall trees planted near electrical lines serve to shift the flight line of eagles above the power lines.

In just the past 2 weeks, two eagles have been found dead within the grounds of Norfolk Botanical Garden that were associated with power lines. The first was an adult-plumaged female and the second was a juvenile-plumaged bird. The juvenile clearly died by trauma-related mid-line strike, and the adult is suspected as having also died by trauma-related mid-line strike. The extent to which these mortalities were facilitated by interactions with other eagles is not clear. We have very little information on causes and rates of eagle mortality but such events are likely much more common than we currently know.


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http://eaglenest.blogs.wm.edu/2012/01/1 ... al-garden/

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thanks LeeLee.

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Based on the DGIF conclusions regarding the proximity of the airport (which killed Mom) and now the power line problem killing two eagles in the span of 2 weeks, maybe the Garden is not the safest place to be. But, how do you tell the eagles that? They want to nest where they want to nest. I have conflicting feelings about it all.


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Based on the DGIF conclusions regarding the proximity of the airport (which killed Mom) and now the power line problem killing two eagles in the span of 2 weeks, maybe the Garden is not the safest place to be. But, how do you tell the eagles that? They want to nest where they want to nest. I have conflicting feelings about it all.


It does not matter what they do, The eagles will nest where they want. The ones at Sidney have a clsoe proximity to an airport.

Planes have far many collisions with geese.

I am very disappointed with them. DGIF

Our falocn site at U of a is not very safe in the last 2 years ( helicopters in their path and the building right in front)but we do the best we can to try and help them. here again , if we move the box , they will nest on the roof.

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Woo Hoo. . .they are live!!! Fingers crossed for this nest this season. So much has been going on. . . I know that there is some speculation as to whether this new female will produce eggs. . .I'm gonna remain optimistic that she will!!!


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You are both correct. There is no way to stop them from nesting in the Garden, with plenty of perfect nest trees around.
DGIF is going through some turmoil at them moment, and the last thing they need is bad press from this, so I think they have probably just removed themselves from the situation. There is a bill that has been introduced in the State Assembly take DGIF powers away and merge them under the Department of Conservation. Its a rather ugly situation that happens once every ten years or so to try and trim budgets. DGIF already ranks 50th in the country for state funding.


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SusanE wrote:
Based on the DGIF conclusions regarding the proximity of the airport (which killed Mom) and now the power line problem killing two eagles in the span of 2 weeks, maybe the Garden is not the safest place to be. But, how do you tell the eagles that? They want to nest where they want to nest. I have conflicting feelings about it all.


It does not matter what they do, The eagles will nest where they want. The ones at Sidney have a clsoe proximity to an airport.

Planes have far many collisions with geese.

I am very disappointed with them. DGIF

Our falocn site at U of a is not very safe in the last 2 years ( helicopters in their path and the building right in front)but we do the best we can to try and help them. here again , if we move the box , they will nest on the roof.


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I will hold out for the best here. It would be a shame not to see these magnificent ealges here.

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thank you for the explanation Barb. Indiana also struggles when it comes to funding so I understand [ or hope to] the reasoning here. Sounds like they are between the proverbial rock and a hard space.

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Loved the adult content warning!!! XXXX or is it XOXOXOXO

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Great captures, Beth. I was watching that nest today, but nobody home for me. :imbored:


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Barb .... I hear this is all because of Virginia's dear Governor ...? Several bills he's trying to pass. It would basically turn DGIF back into Game Wardens instead of Conservation Officers.

I'm waiting for more info. before I start flappin my gums. :gaah:


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Beth, your photos are awesome! Nice catch!! :hapdance: :hapdance:

Patti, the bill was introduced by a state senator from Northern Va who apparently has a grudge against DGIF. I am part of a listserve run by the umbrella conservation group for the state, and Ed Clark has been very vocal about the issue. Its been going on for a few months. Ed says this comes up every 10 years or so as a way to save money. It probably did start with the governors office. It hasn't made it before, but I just saw that the senate today just voted in a bill to make gun control more lax, and Virginia already has the weakest gun control laws around. They are only in session for a couple of months, and there are so many bills. So who knows, but I'm sure it is stressful for all the biologists I know at DGIF.


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Thanks Barb ... I found some 'conversation' with Ed Clark concerning Senator Stuart. I'm going to copy it here... but if you all deem it 'improper' I will remove it. I just REALLY hate the governments way of dealing with the environment/nature/etc. And as one of the "little folks" ... I always feel helpless to deal with it.
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FACT CHECK...... the article about Senator Stuart being charged with hunting violations is NOT a current story, as the link suggests. The story was actually published two years ago.... So, he was not trying to pressure the agency into dropping charges against him and his friends. He is apparently punishing the agency for having flied the charges and convicting his hunting buddy! Still bad, but at least not as bad as trying to influence a witness.. He has a personal ax to grind and there is no place for that!

Ed Clark Since the charges were from two years ago, I doubt if it could be an ethics violation, or even a true conflict of interest, in the legal sense. I think it is just petty, tacky use of his office to punish the agency for having prosecuted him. for personal agenda.

Ed Clark I have already contacted the F'burg reporter who wrote the story, an acquaintance of mine. He is no longer at the paper, but passed along the info to the editor and a couple of reporters who are still there.

Holly Lamar Ed can we make it clear that THAT is why we think he is doing this rather than just ask what his motives for it are? How confrontational can we be?about an hour ago · Unlike · 1

Ed Clark Absolutely!

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More on the story of Senator Stuart and why he is out to get DGIF. What a petty guy he must be. How much taxpayer money has gone into this childish act of retribution on his part--introducing legislation to go after a law enforcement agency for actually enforcing the law.... Hunting over bait is a federal law, anyway, not a state law... It was just being enforced by DGIF officers. I wonder if the Senator will try to disband the State Police when he gets his next speeding ticket!!!

Elected official fined by judge in hunting case
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Ed Clark It is personally reasonable to inform other Senators of the apparent motive behind Senator Stuart's bills...

Ed Clark
This story certainly explains why Senator Richard Stuart has introduced several bills and budget amendments in the Virginia General Assembly to punish the Department of Game and Inland Fisheries. His buddy and his son violated state and federal goose hunting regulations. While this account suggests there was suspicion they were hunting over bait, they shot a goose and failed to tag it before removing it from the field--a violation of the law. They were caught, convicted and fined..... So, not he wants to attack DGIF for actually expecting his friends and family to obey the laws he's been elected to oversee. I guess the Conservation Officer did not know that this Senator and his pals were not expected to obey the laws that apply to all the little people.


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