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Yes, I remember when the folks in China decided Mei Lan was a he!
We sometimes have the same problem with the falcons... :teehee:

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Very cute, Beth!!!

From Cub confidential...a poignant note from Rebecca Snyder!!


    I wanted to take a brief detour from all things Mei Lun and Mei Huan to send our Cub Confidential family a personal note on two other giant pandas who are near and dear to us: the twins’ older brothers, Xi Lan and Po.

    As most of you probably know, we’ll soon bid farewell to our “big boys” when they head off on November 24 to start the next chapter of their lives at the Chengdu Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding in China. I know you all know that watching giant pandas grow from tiny, helpless beings to adventurous cubs to handsome sub-adults is a journey full of precious milestones. While this is a bittersweet one, it’s a milestone too, and it’s one that should give us all great occasion for pride and hope.

    We’ve known since these guys were born that they’d someday be leaving us to make their homes in China; this is actually true of the offspring of all giant pandas here in the U.S., not just at Zoo Atlanta. Because we become so invested in these animals’ lives and grow to love and appreciate them as we do, it’s easy for us to project human emotions onto their behaviors, feelings and motivations. When we do that, though, we potentially do this amazing species an unintended disservice. Unlike humans, which thrive on social interactions with others of our own species, giant pandas are solitary animals. With the exceptions of nursing cubs or breeding adults, they neither require nor seek companionship with other giant pandas. This means that at the ages of 5 and 3, Xi Lan and Po have both been ready for some time to start solitary lifestyles. The next natural step for them is to have the chance to interact with females and hopefully someday breed and become fathers themselves. So while this means a bittersweet goodbye for us, it’s a fantastic opportunity for them.

    I’ve had many panda fans tell me that Xi Lan is a personal favorite of theirs. I’ve had others mention that Po was the cub who got them “hooked” on watching PandaCam. Having been here since the moments both were born, I share your feelings of warmth and pride in these two very special individuals.

    Those of you who have followed us for a while know that this isn’t the first time we’ve said goodbye. Nearly four years ago, we bid bon voyage to Lun Lun’s and Yang Yang’s firstborn, Mei Lan, when he left for China. We still receive periodic updates on him from our colleagues at the Research Base, and I’ve had several panda fans tell me they’ve even had the opportunity to visit him in Chengdu. We can look forward to staying in touch with our friends in China about Xi Lan’s and Po’s progress as the Research Base gets ready to welcome two more members of our giant panda family.

    Zoo Atlanta’s Deputy Director, Dwight Lawson, and I were in Chengdu last week for an international giant panda meeting. We talked with the Director and the Head Veterinarian of the Research Base about Xi Lan’s and Po’s arrival. They are looking forward to welcoming them to the Research Base. Mei Lan is a celebrity there and a staff favorite because he is a star pupil in training sessions. He is thriving at the Research Base, and I’m sure Xi Lan and Po will as well.

    Our colleagues in Chengdu are some of the world’s foremost experts in the care and study of giant pandas, and they’ve devoted their careers to specializing in the unique needs and behaviors of this species. Those of you who grew to admire the dedication, expertise and special attentions of Deng Tao, our colleague who helped us with Mei Lun and Mei Huan until very recently, can rest assured that the Research Base is staffed by a team full of Deng Taos. Having visited and studied at the facility many times myself, I can tell you that it’s an amazing place where Xi Lan and Po will be in the finest of hands.

    Lun Lun, Yang Yang, and their offspring are part of a global effort to conserve giant pandas. I have been participating in giant panda meetings in China since 1997. At the meeting I attended last week, I was struck by the tremendous progress that has been made in giant panda research and conservation. In 1997, there were approximately 130 captive giant pandas, and the population was not self-sustaining. Now there are 376 giant pandas in captivity. The population is flourishing and is expected to increase to 500 in just two years. In 1997, there was very little research being conducted on wild giant pandas. This year’s conference was almost entirely focused on research and conservation involving the wild population. The protected area for giant pandas has significantly expanded in the last 15 years, and results of studies on wild pandas are being published in highly regarded peer-reviewed journals. The results of the fourth national census of the wild population will be released early next year. The expectation is that those results will show that the wild population is stable and is possibly increasing. A subadult male panda was reintroduced to the wild in fall 2012. He is being closely monitored, and so far he is doing well. Seven more captive born giant pandas will be reintroduced to the wild in 2014. In short, the giant panda program is a success and I am hopeful that giant pandas will survive for many generations to come, not just in zoos but also in the wild.

    I hope those of you who are able will join us this Saturday, November 16, for special farewell activities for Xi Lan and Po. Please stop by Panda Veranda from 10 a.m. to 1 p.m. as we wish the boys well and prepare to send them off with all the best from their Zoo Atlanta family.

    In the days to come, please join me in celebrating this important moment in Xi Lan’s and Po’s lives. It’s a moment I hope you’ll all observe with pride in their years with us. Lun Lun may have reared them, and our team may have provided them with care, food, enrichment and training, but your support has helped bring these guys to the point they’ve reached today. The giant pandas don’t belong to us, but our tremendous spirit of community and shared investment in their success certainly do, and that spirit is what sets the Zoo Atlanta family apart.

    Meanwhile, we can now look forward to the next big steps in Xi Lan’s and Po’s baby brothers’ lives, as they graduate from the “nestbox phase” to the phase you all know is one of constant joy – times two.

    With gratitude for all you continue to do to support the giant panda program at Zoo Atlanta,

    Rebecca Snyder, PhD



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Thanks SGB! I saw that article but hadn't had time to post it.

Am watching them now and they are passed out. One on his belly and the other one spread out on his back. Don't know where Lun is off to but it has sure been fun to see her with both cubs. :girlluv:

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I took pics ... I swear ... I just haven't had the time to upload them. :( I'm so pathetic!! :girlcrazy:


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Oh Patti! Being busy is not pathetic. Just glad to know you are enjoying them.

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PattiO wrote:
I took pics ... I swear ... I just haven't had the time to upload them. :( I'm so pathetic!! :girlcrazy:


LOL....I bet if we all posted all the pics we took and never shared, we'd have to add another forum...not pathetic at all....


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China Departure Postponed for Giant Pandas Xi Lan and Po
Friday, November 15, 2013

After reviewing the results of pre-shipment physical examinations on giant pandas Xi Lan, 5, and Po, 3, the Zoo Atlanta Animal Management and Veterinary Teams, in consultation with colleagues at the Chengdu Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding, have made the decision to postpone the pandas’ departure for China, previously scheduled for November 24, 2013.

Both giant pandas are healthy, but the journey to China will involve a lengthy trip and a period of transition in their new home. Once in China, the bears will acclimate themselves to a new habitat and will adapt to a new diet, including the variety of unfamiliar bamboo species native to China. A temporary delay in Xi Lan’s and Po’s departure would allow the giant pandas to develop sufficient reserves to make this transition.

“We’re excited about the opportunities Xi Lan and Po will have once they arrive in Chengdu, but we want to ensure that both are in optimal condition for travel and transition,” said Raymond B. King, President and CEO. “Their welfare is paramount to us and our colleagues in China who are in agreement that a stay of a few more months is the right choice for the animals.”

Pre-shipment physicals are an important part of the process for animals traveling from Zoo Atlanta to new homes. Routinely performed by the Veterinary Team on individuals scheduled to move to other facilities, these are comprehensive examinations that analyze an animal’s total bill of health while ensuring that those preparing to travel will be able to adapt successfully to new circumstances and diets.

The farewell celebration planned for Saturday, November 16 will continue as scheduled. Activities will take place from 10 a.m. to 1 p.m. at Panda Veranda.


Xi Lan and Po are the second and third offspring of giant panda pair Lun Lun and Yang Yang. Lun Lun’s youngest offspring, 4-month-old twins Mei Lun and Mei Huan, recently began

living with their mother full-time and will soon be making their public debut in the Arthur M. Blank Family Foundation Giant Panda Conservation Center.

Stay tuned for updates on Xi Lan’s and Po’s revised departure date; updates will be posted on zooatlanta.org as they are available.


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oh that is wonderful we get to keep them a little while longer. :hapdance: Thanks Kris.

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Oh Thanks Kris...I forgot to post that news earlier!!


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This was posted on ZA's FB page...video by DoxieMom 19...too cute..



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They look like little miniature sumo wrestlers! In big fat diapers! :teehee:

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After that workout, I am not surprised to see them looking like this :teehee:
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this little gal must have had a big day too! :girlluv:
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gigi wrote:
They look like little miniature sumo wrestlers! In big fat diapers! :teehee:


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More Door Drama :teehee:
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:teehee:

Some really cute pics here:




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too darned cute, both pictures and commentary!
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#2 is sound asleep in the other room....but, not this one...He's currently roaming around while Lun tries to eat!!



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Trying to copy his mom. How adorable!

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