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 Post subject: Re: NEW YORK CITY UNIVERSITY : Violet and Bobby 2011
PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:45 am 
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:hi: Dont know anything about Majesty, but re Violet's leg band/injury, had to chime in. Have to say having had experience w USFWS banding practices, valuable info is gained from banding though somewhat invasive due to having to "handle" a wild creature. Much has been learned to help raptor conservation through banding, since now even the cams can read the bands when zoomed in. (PTZ cams) And one day there may be no need for banding, but we are not there yet. Way back in Dec or Oct 2010 I remember seeing a photo of Violets leg on Lincoln Karim's site for PaleMale. He of course has that canon size camera and lens, and had a blown up image of her leg with the band on it. Though he usually directs his comments towards the bander, who I know to be an excellent bander for 30 yrs, I myself noticed that below the band where it was swollen, what appeared to be a puncture dot. There are instances where raptors have been bitten by a snake they had caught that was still alive, as well as creatures alive that have bitten the raptor on the foot or leg before being dispatched. Though not poisonous, the bite causes an infection that causes the area to swell, pushing the band further up, where it would then be too tight, painful, and cause further problems. And of course, that happening, is a freak occurence of nature. I really feel this is what has happened to Violet, and would still like to see her caught and have the problem fixed. Just wanted to throw this out there in defense of USFWS and the folks banding, who are very precise, and do not just "wing it" when it comes to size of band, and tightness, etc. These folks are trying to help the raptors by gaining knowledge, and take great care not to do any harm. Just my thoughts being thrown out there for consideration. THANKS for the posts and video, it was great seeing Violet and Bobby on the nest, nice closure for the season, and knowing Pip is soaring free :loveshow:

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 Post subject: Re: NEW YORK CITY UNIVERSITY : Violet and Bobby 2011
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just to give yall a hawk report for thanksgiving day. I was fortunate when i came out of the holland tunnel to have not turned off sooner and ended up going over the williamsburg bridge into brookly. After an illegal u turn i ended up in the bowery but i didnt see hunts hall or leo gorcey. finally after driving across town i ended up by washington square and saw a red tail flying above the square. the only reason i knew which square it was was when i looked out my window to see the bobst library. i can not say who i saw but id bet it was one of the two

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:bsanta: I'm sure it was good for you :bsanta:

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 Post subject: Re: NEW YORK CITY UNIVERSITY : Violet and Bobby 2011
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:girlsad3: Some sad news on the NYU rth female, Violet. Lincoln Karim has posted a picture and some video of Violet on his palemale site. Clearly, her foot is crippled where she is not using it or even putting it down. Checked the NYU site and it is all the talk there also. So sad, I thought the NYU folks and their biologist specialists had previously stated that if Violet's condition worsened, they would look at trapping or netting her, or at least make some efforts to help her.

I check in on Starr Ranch barn owls sometimes, as I dont have the same time I used to with all the cams. A couple weeks back, several posters were concerned because the male's band had moved higher up his leg for several days. Then one morning, it was right back down where it is supposed to be. Dont know why that happens, do they lose some weight at different seasons, allowing the band to move up? Dont know, but do know for sure that Pete has been banding forever, and knows what he is doing. I really feel Violet has some type of infection causing the swelling, not allowing the band to slide down, and actually may be forcing it higher and higher with the swelling from infection. It is painful to watch the video of her eating while standing on one foot only, so dont watch it if it may upset you. Did not want to post a picture from Lincoln's page here, do not want to incite the wrath of Lincoln! If you want to see Violet's condition, you can go to link below. Lincoln has also posted further down under the videos a link to someone at NYU, if you care to pass on a message to them to help. Such a sad situation, I really am so sad for Violet. Humans are truly falling short to help her.

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This is so heartbreaking to see of the beautiful Violet they should have done something a long time ago they really need to get her or I'm afraid of the bad outcome.
Thanks LeeLee for posting this even if it isn't good news I wonder if we all ganged up on them if they would do something.

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Thanks for letting us know, LeeLee...well, this just infuriates me!!! :tearhair I know we were not privy to all the "behind the door" discussions about this issue, but I don't know how it could have turned out differently. This is just so very sad...

Lincoln's pics and video are just horrific...they made me sick to my stomach...He has also included several links to inform authorities of this issue...I, for one, will be contacting these people as soon as I finish this post..

this is just tragic..




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 Post subject: Re: NEW YORK CITY UNIVERSITY : Violet and Bobby 2011
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I sent a request to the Commissioner link that Lincoln provided...hopefully, it won't get him in trouble as I sent a link of his pics to the Commissioner...

I chose Jeremy Friedman to contact at NYU..no reason, other than he was listed first...

ALSO...I just wrote the President of the University...the nest was on HIS office ledge..


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 Post subject: Re: NEW YORK CITY UNIVERSITY : Violet and Bobby 2011
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I sent a request to the Commissioner link that Lincoln provided...hopefully, it won't get him in trouble as I sent a link of his pics to the Commissioner...

I chose Jeremy Friedman to contact at NYU..no reason, other than he was listed first...

ALSO...I just wrote the President of the University...the nest was on HIS office ledge..

Can you please post the links you used so we can all get a jump on this SGB? it might help us to get it done faster cuz i wasn't sure who to send it to. Thanks alot

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Here's who I wrote:

President of NYU (according to the Hawk website, the nest was on his office ledge)

[email protected]

Commissioner Carter Strickland

http://www.nyc.gov/html/mail/html/maildep.html

Manager, Sustainability Initiatives (NYUGreen~ web host for the cam)

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Thanks SGB I'm writing them now i just hope I don't do more harm than good, but I really don't see how I could they did enough for all of us

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Thank you for the links sgb. This is more than tragic.


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Violet, a star of NYC’s popular hawk cam, has a worsening leg injury, may not survive
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I am very upset by all of this

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So am I...plus, I'm annoyed that I've had NO response from my emails...not even a standard "form" letter....grrrrrrrrrrrr...


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So am I...plus, I'm annoyed that I've had NO response from my emails...not even a standard "form" letter....grrrrrrrrrrrr...

That is just crappy they won't even try and reply to any of us I really didn't expect them to to tell you the truth. They know they are going to have a big stinker in their laps soon

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A moment of silence because I can't think of anything to say.


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 Post subject: Re: NEW YORK CITY UNIVERSITY : Violet and Bobby 2011
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I got an acknowledgment

Dear BEV FULLBRANDT:

Thank you for contacting the City of New York. Your message has been forwarded to the appropriate agency for review and handling.


For future reference, your service request number is 1-1-709163681.


Sincerely,


The City of New York

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 Post subject: Re: NEW YORK CITY UNIVERSITY : Violet and Bobby 2011
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Well bev you at least got a reply I haven't heard a thing maybe SGB will have something or maybe someone else. Thanks for letting us know, I'll keep checking my mail now closer

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 Post subject: Re: NEW YORK CITY UNIVERSITY : Violet and Bobby 2011
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Found this in my e-mail
There are a lot of great pictures
Violet appears at Washington Square Park - December 11, 2011



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 Post subject: Re: NEW YORK CITY UNIVERSITY : Violet and Bobby 2011
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VIOLET HAS BEEN RESCUED! She is now undergoing treatment!

here is the blog about today's rescue:

http://rogerpaw.blogspot.com/
what a nice christmas present for all the hawkaholics and espeically for violet :merrychristmas2: :merrychristmas3:

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