2013 ALMA & GENOA ~ 2013

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 63313

OH MAN..look how wide she opened her mouth for this bite...YIKES...she was blocking so I couldn't see the feed..

gigi · **Posted:** Fri May 17, 2013 7:28 pm

skygirlblue wrote:

I don't think Greg Septon has any connection with this nest, but I may write him anyway. Maybe he has a counter part in this area..

SGB, the Genoa nest does fall under Greg's watch. From what I understand, Greg is responsible for monitoring all of Wisconsin. I looked in the 2012 nesting report, but he does not mention specific birds, just that last year they produced 3 chicks. I do not have his contact info - at least not that I know of. If you send it, I will ask him.

kittenface · **Posted:** Sun May 19, 2013 12:40 pm

gigi wrote:

skygirlblue wrote:

I don't think Greg Septon has any connection with this nest, but I may write him anyway. Maybe he has a counter part in this area..

SGB, the Genoa nest does fall under Greg's watch. From what I understand, Greg is responsible for monitoring all of Wisconsin. I looked in the 2012 nesting report, but he does not mention specific birds, just that last year they produced 3 chicks. I do not have his contact info - at least not that I know of. If you send it, I will ask him.

This is one of Amy's nests from RRP I don't know if they would or should I say could do anything, but here is the info . Also you could get thru the forum its self (it takes a bit) she is probably running around like a chicken with its head cut off right now.

Bob Anderson
Director
[email protected]

Amy Ries
Webmaster
[email protected]

kittenface · **Posted:** Sun May 19, 2013 3:22 pm

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 63313

thanks for that info, KF...so, it would be best to email Bob?

I don't think they would do anything right now...After watching what Buddy went through, its not like clipping toenails..I think they have to be sedated for a beak trim..

I also think her top beak has grown more since the eggs were laid. Somehow she is managing to feed...I don't know how she is doing it. I've never seen Dad do a feed...wonder if he knows how?

so...now to come up with a game plan here to see if somebody can help her...gosh..can you imagine trying to trap an adult?

gigi · **Posted:** Sun May 19, 2013 5:35 pm

I sent Amy an email expressing concerns about the growing beak and her ability to continue to tear food and feed the chick in addition to problems for herself. Copied both you and Kittenface. I will advise if and when I hear anything.

gigi · **Posted:** Sun May 19, 2013 5:38 pm

As far as trapping her, it can be done, but it isn't easy for sure. A few years ago John Castrale caught and banded one of the adults at the IPL Harding St. plant [I think]. I wonder if genetically if this a problem to pass a mutant gene that predisposes her chicks to the same fate?

At rehab we see growing beaks in non releasable birds and filing them down is not an easy task. I sure don't know what the answer is here....

ljames · **Posted:** Sun May 19, 2013 9:32 pm

Saw a feed, well as much as you can tell with a refresh cam. I don't see how that chick is still alive.
She was in the box, then he was, but I don't think that he fed any.

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 63313

gigi wrote:

I sent Amy an email expressing concerns about the growing beak and her ability to continue to tear food and feed the chick in addition to problems for herself. Copied both you and Kittenface. I will advise if and when I hear anything.

thanks gigi...I'll wait to see if you here back from Amy before sending my email to Bob...

Didn't they trap and band Guinevere at South Bend? I did see a video once of a biologist netting an adult while they were at the box to band the chicks...I guess if you have a really large net, an aggressive adult that dive bombs you, great timing, and nerves of steal, then netting an adult that's dive bombing you during banding would be the way to go. You take the chick and the mom..band the chick, do a beak trim, feed the chick a nice dinner, then put them both back at the same time...the plan in an ideal world...LOL

I can't even remember if they band here...

gigi · **Posted:** Mon May 20, 2013 10:46 am

skygirlblue wrote:

gigi wrote:

I sent Amy an email expressing concerns about the growing beak and her ability to continue to tear food and feed the chick in addition to problems for herself. Copied both you and Kittenface. I will advise if and when I hear anything.

thanks gigi...I'll wait to see if you here back from Amy before sending my email to Bob...

Didn't they trap and band Guinevere at South Bend? I did see a video once of a biologist netting an adult while they were at the box to band the chicks...I guess if you have a really large net, an aggressive adult that dive bombs you, great timing, and nerves of steal, then netting an adult that's dive bombing you during banding would be the way to go. You take the chick and the mom..band the chick, do a beak trim, feed the chick a nice dinner, then put them both back at the same time...the plan in an ideal world...LOL

I can't even remember if they band here...

I received a reply from Amy this morning.
"Gigi, we are going to try to trap her and trim her beak. We may not be able to get her, but we will try. Bob has a lot of experience with this, and a tool for it.

Thanks so much for your email."
I remember John Castrale trapping an adult at IPL Harding to band her, but I cannot remember any more than that - as usual
:girlcrazy:

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 63313

kittenface · **Posted:** Mon May 20, 2013 12:55 pm

Thank you gigi for getting the ball rolling on this with Genoa mom, she also replied on RRP forum.

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 63313

Thanks...I've very glad they have been watching this nest...

gigi · **Posted:** Mon May 20, 2013 1:06 pm

skygirlblue wrote:

Thanks...I've very glad they have been watching this nest...

Me too!

for referring us to the RRP forum KF!

Dutch Eagle Fan · **Posted:** Tue May 21, 2013 6:51 pm

I'm afraid the chick didn't make it. Haven't seen female either. A few minutes ago the male came, picked up some leftovers (I hope), dropped it again and left.
Wish they would zoom out, maybe the female moved all the way to one side, with the baby. (Keeping hopes up here)

kittenface · **Posted:** Tue May 21, 2013 7:01 pm

I was just going to post maybe they got mom and took chick, this is going to be one of those waiting games now.

gigi · **Posted:** Tue May 21, 2013 8:33 pm

Oh dear.

gigi · **Posted:** Tue May 21, 2013 8:45 pm

I just sent Amy an email about Genoa...

kittenface · **Posted:** Tue May 21, 2013 8:46 pm

There was a post at RRP by Nora & BFoss they are in agreement that the chick has died. :sorrow:

Oh dear.... I should have checked that.

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 63313

Oh No...that is so sad and I am so sorry to hear that..maybe not enough food? Or an injury? Or maybe nothing related at all to mom?

I do hope they will still try to catch mom and help her...of course it will be harder now..

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