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 Post subject: Re: PANDAS
PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:47 pm 
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Thanks Kris!!! It was a little nerve wracking to watch after the second birth...I wonder how long they waited before going in to get one of the cubs....

Here's the update:


    Tuesday, July 16
    The panda team is tired and a little stressed, but happy! So far, both cubs are doing well. We are fortunate that both were born a healthy weight and strong. Sometimes one twin is very small. As you all know, Lun Lun is a fantastic mom, and she's even more impressive this time. The cubs are being alternated with her, which is a technique first developed by our colleagues in Chengdu and used successfully for many cubs. Lun Lun is such a good mom, though, that she is reluctant to give up whichever cub she has. So, we have not been able to swap the cubs as frequently as we would like. Because of that, both have been supplemented with some formula. Both are doing well with this. Their condition and Lun Lun's behavior will continue to guide our actions. The next few days are especially critical. So, please continue to keep us in your thoughts. We can use the good vibes!
    Rebecca Snyder, PhD,
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Thanks for the update SGB! I bet the staff is exhausted - a good kind! :girlluv:

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From the "Cub Confidential" email:

    July 17, Day 2: Dr. Sam Rivera, Associate Veterinarian, sends Cub Confidential subscribers an exclusive update on the twins.

    Says Dr. Sam: “Lun Lun and the cubs continue doing well and are settling nicely into the new routine. The last 12 hours have been less challenging than the first 12. Both cubs appear to be nursing well, and Lun Lun is doing an outstanding job caring for them and cooperating with our plans. We’re currently swapping cubs every two to three hours. The cubs are well hydrated and are urinating and defecating normally. I never thought I’d get so excited about panda poop!”

    Thanks, Dr. Sam, for the scoop – literally – on the cubs. We’re excited, too, and we don’t mind saying so!

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Panda Poop is a good thing! :teehee:

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I signed up to receive the cub confidential updates too, carly.
:girlluv: So often when I watch I don't see anything so I know I will at least see their pics.

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Yep...we've been having some very bad storms...lots of flooding/hail/lightning....the area where the Zoo is located has received some of the worse..

Here's what is posted on their webpage:
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    We've had some major storms this evening here in Atlanta. The storms in the vicinity have caused some damage to the equipment that streams the live footage. This equipment is not in the building where the pandas are housed. All is fine in the panda building. We hope to have the equipment repaired by tomorrow morning.

Ya gotta go see the new pic on the update page...OMG..it is so cute!!!



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Wasn't Lun Lun's first, Mei Lan, thought to be a girl...

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gigi, I think so...

Well, so far, we've had nothing but boys here!!!...I sure was hoping that one of the twins would be female.....but, as all aunties, it doesn't matter as long as they both are healthy and thrive..

I just went back and looked at the histories...I did not know (or, maybe I knew and my memory failed me) that Yang Yang was adopted by 3 organizations in the Netherlands while he was still in China. They changed his name to Yang Yang, meaning Little Sea!!!

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Great report carly! :girlluv: Mom's milk is absolutely the best!

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From Cub Confidential

We've got twin...BOYS
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Twins are new to all of us, too! We’ve gotten some great questions about the rearing of the cubs. Rebecca Snyder, Ph.D., Curator of Mammals, took a few minutes to answer some of our more frequent inquiries.

1. What is the formula the cubs are getting, and how often are the cubs nursing?
The formula is a combination of Esbilac® (a puppy formula) and Enfamil® (a human formula). This formula has been used successfully with many newborn giant panda cubs. Over the past day or so, neither of the cubs has required supplemental formula.

2. Why is the staff member not wearing gloves in some of the recent photos?
Our staff disinfects their hands before touching the cubs. We are following the protocol used by the staff at the Chengdu Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding.

3. Why is the Zoo “intervening?” Wouldn’t Mom know best?
Giant pandas normally do not raise both cubs when twins are born. It is normal for one cub to die within a few days of birth; this happens in the wild and in captivity. There are only two cases in which a captive giant panda mother has raised twins simultaneously. Both were experienced mothers, and both still had some human assistance. Humans watched the mothers constantly and retrieved a cub if it was dropped and gave it to the mother. It requires tremendous dexterity for a giant panda mother to keep her cub warm, clean, and fed. I think it is very difficult for the mother to do this for two cubs at once. She may try, but eventually one gets too cold or not enough to eat or is accidentally crushed. The best way to ensure that both cubs survive is to alternate them with the mother.

4. How does the staff go about actually rotating the cubs?
When there is an opportunity to reach the cub, the staff member reaches in and removes the cub. Lun Lun is offered food when this happens. Giant panda mothers usually don’t eat or drink for a few to several days after birth, so food is not very motivating at this point. But, Lun Lun has been eating a piece of sugarcane when a cub is removed and sometimes drinks some water. She has food and water available to her at all times, but she is choosing not to eat and drink at other times. In a few days, her appetite will begin to return. Then she will start putting the cub down for short periods of time to eat and drink. The swapping can then be done when she puts the cub down. The Chengdu Research Base staff is very adept at this method, and it works very well.

5. How long will the cubs have to stay in an incubator?
When not with Lun Lun, they will stay in an incubator for about two to three months. The temperature of the incubator will be reduced gradually as the cubs grow their coats and begin to be able to regulate their own body temperature. They are most vulnerable to hypothermia in the first month. After the first month, they have a full coat of fur and the mother puts them down more and leaves them for longer periods of time.

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July 18, Day 3: Sam Rivera, DVM, Associate Veterinarian, stayed up all night with the twins. He has this exclusive update for our Cub Confidential subscribers:

“The cubs and Lun Lun continue doing well. The cubs are gaining weight at a steady rate, and we can already tell how they are changing as they grow. Their white baby fur is getting longer, and we can see the dark coloration around the eyes.

The smaller cub is a handful! During the 1 a.m. swap, the smaller cub (which was in the incubator) let everyone know how hungry he was by screaming so loudly. I thought he was going to wake up all the other pandas in the building, not to mention a few of our neighbors! Lun Lun, on the other hand, was content with the larger cub and was resting peacefully. I was very glad when we were able to swap cubs and get the little one his much-needed meal. He still complained while with Lun Lun, but eventually settled down and went to sleep.”

Thanks, Dr. Sam! The boys already seem to be developing their own unique personalities!

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wow, the updates are better than tv. thank you for posting them.


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 Post subject: Re: PANDAS
PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:35 pm 
Ok...I know nothing about Panda's....so where do the tails go when they get older? Crazy question, I know... :???:


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Thank You Carly! :eggthumbup:


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Thanks Carly!! :loveshow:

Here is the link to today's Cub Confidential.



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They looked like they were vocalizing. :teehee:

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I remember years ago when i watched my first Panda cub. How i loved it, now life too busy.

I am going to have to fix that part of my life.

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So darn cute-thanks everyone for all the news!!

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