California Eagles Nov 2020 - 2021

gigi · **Posted:** Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:53 pm

SWINWK wrote:

Big Bear eagle nest is at the highest elevation of any known BE nests in the nation per mod:

"Our nest is built 110ft up in a 120ft Jeffrey Pine tree, 7000ft above sea level This is the highest known Bald Eagle in the US... and probably in the galaxy"

Shepherd · **Joined:** Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:10 pm **Posts:** 6235

SWINWK wrote:

Big Bear eagle nest is at the highest elevation of any known BE nests in the nation per mod:

"Our nest is built 110ft up in a 120ft Jeffrey Pine tree, 7000ft above sea level This is the highest known Bald Eagle in the US... and probably in the galaxy"

in the galaxy!
No wonder its a star!
They need to fire the nasty mod who banned me for mentioning NASCAR tho

SWINWK · **Joined:** Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:41 am **Posts:** 12726

Still no confirmed pip by mods at Big Bear. Mod reports a few minutes ago: The eggs are 40 and 37 days old. The hatch window is open. We are waiting patiently

SWINWK · **Joined:** Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:41 am **Posts:** 12726

This is who officially confirms if there is a pip at Big Bear and here is their last FB post:

Friends of Big Bear Valley and Big Bear Eagle Nest Cam
4 hrs ·
When Shadow just stood up to make some adjustments, we zoomed in. Still nothing - at least on the sides of the eggs shown to the camera. We'll try to keep checking and update you during the day.

gigi · **Posted:** Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:19 pm

Shepherd wrote:

SWINWK wrote:

Big Bear eagle nest is at the highest elevation of any known BE nests in the nation per mod:

"Our nest is built 110ft up in a 120ft Jeffrey Pine tree, 7000ft above sea level This is the highest known Bald Eagle in the US... and probably in the galaxy"

in the galaxy!
No wonder its a star!
They need to fire the nasty mod who banned me for mentioning NASCAR tho

Shepherd, they have a strict rule that posts need to pertain to Big Bear Eagles. From chat: "Out of courtesy for FOBBV who stream the cam, our focus is on Big Bear and the surrounding area. Please keep chat focused on the Big Bear eagles. Thank you!"

SWINWK · **Joined:** Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:41 am **Posts:** 12726

Excerpt from FOBBV FB:

Friends of Big Bear Valley and Big Bear Eagle Nest Cam
2 hrs ·
There is lots of talk going around different chats and FB pages about what the status is with the eggs and whether they will hatch. Rather than worry, speculate or make pronouncements, we would prefer to be diligent observers of nature in all of its beauty and its amazing processes, curiosities and possibilities. Every eagle pair is different, every nest and nesting season has a multitude of variables and every bald eagle has its own unique way of being in the world--Jackie, for example, was 'supposed to' mate for life with Mr. B. But apparently Jackie forgot to read the rule book and against all human speculation, decided she liked Shadow better. We will continue watching and learning and humbly allow the eagles and nature to show us what will happen next.

gigi · **Posted:** Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:27 am

Thanks for bringing this common sense info here, SWINWK. :biggrin:

bev. · **Posted:** Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:17 pm

gigi wrote:

Thanks for bringing this common sense info here, SWINWK. :biggrin:

I can never understand the negative comments or the blame game. we have seen so many things that are out of ordinary. nothing is ever set in stone in nature.

but this is what happens in chats and why I tend to stay away form them.
I have been watching behind the scenes here, and what ever happens , the adults will be fine. WE have seen it many times with eagles , falcons etc :7val:

gigi · **Posted:** Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:57 pm

bev. wrote:

gigi wrote:

Thanks for bringing this common sense info here, SWINWK. :biggrin:

I can never understand the negative comments or the blame game. we have seen so many things that are out of ordinary. nothing is ever set in stone in nature.

but this is what happens in chats and why I tend to stay away form them.
I have been watching behind the scenes here, and what ever happens , the adults will be fine. WE have seen it many times with eagles , falcons etc :7val:

Expect the unexpected! :biggrin:

bev. · **Posted:** Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:29 pm

yes GIGI
I never throw in th e towel. that should be my motto.

bev. · **Posted:** Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:19 am

Big Bear

I am limiting what i watch this year but the beauty of this place was hard to resist this morning

Ferenz · **Posted:** Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:37 pm

gigi · **Posted:** Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:40 am

IWS West End 1st :newegg:

on February 20. Calendar updated!

gigi · **Posted:** Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:26 pm

Sad news at Sauces Eagle Nest in California. Per FB egg laid 2/21 and within seconds it broke. The same thing happened last year.

Eagle calendar updated :newegg:

SWINWK · **Joined:** Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:41 am **Posts:** 12726

Today the eggs of Jackie and Shadow at Big Bear are 45 and 42 days. This was posted on their FB yesterday by FBBV and BBENC:

Friends of Big Bear Valley and Big Bear Eagle Nest Cam
Yesterday at 2:21 PM ·
We wanted to let you know the US Forest Service has posted about Jackie and Shadow's eggs...here's what they say:
"It’s hard to say this, but the odds of our Big Bear bald eagle nest’s eggs will hatch this year are diminishing each day. We’re on day 44 and day 41 since the eggs were laid. They typically hatch between 35-38 days; even giving them a day or two extra for slow development due to cold temperatures, the window of successful hatching is closing. We haven’t seen a definite pip (crack in the egg from the chick poking a hole in the shell) in either egg. At this point, we'll be very (pleasantly) surprised if either egg hatches.
There are several factors that could result in a nest failure. The eggs may have been infertile from the start (incomplete fertilization during mating, etc.) or the embryos could have died during incubation (from congenital defects, weather, or environmental factors) or the chicks may not have been able to successfully break out of their shells. Chances are that Jackie and Shadow (as they pair of eagles are known) will continue incubation for another 10 days or so, but they’ll start leaving the eggs unattended for periods of time that will lengthen each day. "
We know all of this is hard to hear and see--it is part of watching nature. We will continue watching the nest and posting about Jackie and Shadow and their actions. Thank you for caring about the eagles and their lives.
Sandy

gigi · **Posted:** Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:50 pm

I am not surprised. We’ll never know. :15heartbeat:

kittenface · **Posted:** Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:55 pm

Ferenz · **Posted:** Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:34 am

Big Bear Lake, CA

SWINWK · **Joined:** Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:41 am **Posts:** 12726

Jackie and Shadow at Big Bear Lake continue to incubate their eggs that are now 51 and 48 days. It seems Harriet and M15's 2nd clutch has reached far and wide across the nation, which is a good thing! This is from 3 days ago:

U.S. Forest Service - San Bernardino National Forest
February 25 at 3:11 PM ·
We've gotten a number of inquiries about what will happen to the Big Bear eagle nest and the eggs now that it's obvious that they will not hatch this season. As much as we'd like to, we can't predict the future. However, we can tell you what we have seen here in the past.

In 2013, a few years before the eagle nest camera installation, our Forest Service biologists were monitoring this nest when it was inhabited by a different pair, known locally as Lucy and Ricky. Without the nest camera, the exact laying dates were unknown. But estimating based on behavior, incubation started around January 12. That puts the estimated hatch dates that year around February 16. In 2013, Lucy and Ricky incubated 50 days. Finally on March 3, they left the nest for an extended period. The ravens tore apart a lot of the nest, presumably consuming the eggs and all the other scraps they could find. For the next 3 weeks, Lucy and Ricky were observed carrying sticks to a nearby tree attempting to build a new nest. They weren't very serious about it and did not stick to it.

The following season, they returned to this nest tree to restore and enlarge the nest. The odds are that within the next week or so, our 2020 eggs will be abandoned. We do expect that our Big Bear nesting pair of bald eagles will continue to defend this territory and will nest there again next season. Our eggs are now 45 and 48 days old.

Could they lay more eggs this year? Bald eagles rarely double-clutch once they've lost one clutch of eggs that has been fully-incubated. But, it does happen (including recently in Florida). There's certainly enough time as last year's eggs were laid two months later than this year (on 3/6/19 and 3/9/19 instead of the first week of January). Double-clutching is the rare exception for bald eagles, not the rule. For that reason, we're not expecting it to happen at the Big Bear nest. Like you, we hope we're wrong and get surprised!

Ferenz · **Posted:** Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:47 am

Big Bear Lake: Harsh snowy conditions, tough Jackie

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