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gigi · **Posted:** Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:49 pm

Our Silent Sipper Update!!

Tuesday, November 23
Heather and I were talking the other night, during a shift change, about the cub’s nursing, which inspired this update. With the last two cubs, we could typically hear particular noises when the cub was nursing, but not with this one. Normally, these sounds were either of suckling or of what sounded like swallowing. Not this one, he characteristically is quiet. This becomes a challenge sometimes to confirm nursing as Lun is hiding the cub from view. If the cub is partially visible, we have to rely on the cub’s body movements, swallowing, as well as paying attention to what Lun is doing. Depending on her position, she won’t move until the cub is finished, and some of these positions don’t look like they would be comfortable for an extended period of time. Luckily with the cub growing, it is much more difficult for Lun to block our view. So, it is getting easier for us to see actual nursing.
Joseph T. Svoke
Carnivore Keeper III

catwoman · **Posted:** Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:24 pm

Juvenile eagle at Lost Field

gigi · **Posted:** Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:40 pm

Lun Lun has been away from the cub for a little while now. At first he was a little wriggle worm, but now he has settled down and appears to be asleep. I really need to learn how to take videos..... or at least a picture from the stream. In my next life, I will be more computer savvy!!

Oh, he is moving his head, so I guess he isn't sleeping. And now Lun Lun is back with cubbie hidden in her arms.
:shower

Oh, it is bath time!!!! And now a little nursing before off to bed! :zzzzz

catwoman · **Posted:** Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:17 pm

gigi wrote:

:flirty: Lun Lun has been away from the cub for a little while now. At first he was a little wriggle worm, but now he has settled down and appears to be asleep. I really need to learn how to take videos..... or at least a picture from the stream. In my next life, I will be more computer savvy!!

Oh, he is moving his head, so I guess he isn't sleeping. And now Lun Lun is back with cubbie hidden in her arms.
:shower

Oh, it is bath time!!!! And now a little nursing before off to bed! :zzzzz

Don't feel badly about not posting pics of Lun Lun & Wee Lan, Gigi--your great description really creates a picture of what they're doing! :flirty:

eiguoc · **Posted:** Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:54 pm

at Lost field at what looks like a deer carcass a 3 year leucistic bald

a 2 year or so golden

kittenface · **Posted:** Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:39 pm

I haven't had ANY luck catching anything at all the cams :-(

eiguoc · **Posted:** Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:01 am

Deer Run is active usually 9-11. then it's nappy time or recovery time, The shenanigans start again around 2pm. Bird point, you never know the hawks have been in the morning & the bald & golden in afternoons. Swans & ducks at any time.They have a carcass out in Lost field to attract the hawks & eagles to & hopefully some yotes. The other cams it's hit & miss right now.

gigi · **Posted:** Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:23 pm

Wednesday, November 24
Since Lun Lun has been reliably leaving the cub to eat, I decided to try to weigh her on Saturday morning. The last time Lun Lun stepped on the scale for us was on October 30; at that time, she weighed 97.2 kg. Lun Lun usually weighs in around 100-106 kg, depending on how full her digestive tract is at the time of weighing. As we have mentioned previously, giant panda mothers will seclude themselves in a den and stop eating prior to giving birth and for a few days to three weeks after. So, a decrease in weight is typical and expected. However, I was pleasantly surprised at how much weight Lun Lun has put on in just three weeks after giving birth. She is now up to 101 kg, which is within the range of her normal weight.
Heather Baker Roberts
Carnivore Keeper II

Beth · **Posted:** Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:08 pm

Thanks Gigi! :dancinggirls:

gigi · **Posted:** Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:50 pm

He is just the cutest little thing. Really starting to look like a panda too!

Right now Lun Lun is curled up in her forward ball. Oh she just sat upright and twirled around and I can barely see the cub nursing (?). Just love that he is getting bigger so we can see him more!

In my next life I am going to come back as a panda mom. None of this getting kicked out of the hospital in 24 hours! And Lun Lun really knows how to nap. I think she not only naps when Wee Lan naps, but a lot of other times too. :flirty:

Mick · **Posted:** Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:28 pm

Thanks for all the updates. Thank you for putting together the video SGb.

Beth, what a SWEET capture!!!

birdmusic · **Posted:** Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:57 pm

gigi wrote:

In my next life, I will be more computer savvy!!

In my next life I am going to come back as a panda mom.

A computer savvy panda mom?? That will be quite interesting!
(Sorry, couldn't resist!) :lol:

gigi · **Posted:** Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:07 pm

birdmusic wrote:

gigi wrote:

In my next life, I will be more computer savvy!!
In my next life I am going to come back as a panda mom.

A computer savvy panda mom?? That will be quite interesting!
(Sorry, couldn't resist!) :lol:

I guess I want it all! I will be the only panda mom who knows how to capture videos from live streaming and do it while I am taking a nap!

Mick · **Posted:** Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:20 pm

Beth · **Posted:** Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:44 pm

Friday, November 26 *Update...

On Wednesday, the cub was 21 days old and the veterinarians gave him another physical examination. He is healthy and growing steadily. His latest measurements are: weight: 714 g.; tip of nose to tip of tail: 33.5 cm; tail length: 7 cm; neck girth: 16.5 cm; chest girth: 23 cm; abdominal girth: 27 cm. For comparison, last week’s measurements can be found in the Friday, November 19 update.
I looked back in our records to compare this cub to both Mei Lan and Xi Lan at similar ages.
At 19 days, Mei Lan’s measurements were: weight: 671.6 g; tip of nose to tip of tail: 33 cm; tail length: 7 cm; neck girth: 16 cm; chest girth: 22 cm; abdominal girth: 24 cm.
Also at 19 days, Xi Lan’s measurements were: weight: 544.8 g; tip of nose to tip of tail: 29.2 cm; tail length: 5.7 cm; neck girth: 13.7 cm; chest girth: 19.8 cm; abdominal girth: 23.3 cm.
Rebecca Snyder, PhD
Curator of Mammals

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catwoman · **Posted:** Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:34 pm

So Wee Lan weighs more than his siblings did at his age. Cute picture--look at those claws! Thanks, Beth!

Beth · **Posted:** Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:17 pm

November 27th, 2010

A second young bull arrived yesterday morning. You can see from this photo that their antlers are the same size so these two were born the same year. I’d guess this is their 3rd fall so that would mean they were born in the spring of 2008. They could possibly be twins.

The second single cow showed up this morning so there are currently two cows and three bulls here. Absent are the bull with the broken antler and the pair, all of whom were here just prior to last week’s storm.

Beth · **Posted:** Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:59 pm

Saturday, November 27 Update...

The cub has a full coat of very short hair now. He also still has some of the long, fuzzy, sparse, white hair that he was born with. But under this is his new coat of black and white hair. His new coat will grow longer and thicker over the next couple of months, until it is like the dense, wooly coat of his parents. For now, his hair parts down the middle of his back, which I think is very cute. But it will only last a couple of weeks. The new hair is already helping to keep him warm and is a sign that Lun Lun will soon be able to spend more time away from him. He looks like a miniature adult giant panda now, and this is the beginning of the irresistible good looks that will last his whole life.
Rebecca Snyder, PhD
Curator of Mammals

eiguoc · **Posted:** Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:13 pm

The trumpeters have landed . at least13 of them. I get to name the Mute swan, Not an easy task. I found out the names I picked were not in his character. Bob Taylor the owner has told me thatthis Mute swan chased and tryed to breed many Trumpeter sygnets in the last three years. Also. it is extremely aggressive. So beautiful & calm names & my choice Grace went out the window. I have people voting on some choices I had & some that were given to me

eiguoc · **Posted:** Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:44 pm

Coyote from Lost field

Brahma is still with us. The Man above has spared him :sfcheers:

Taking care of his wound

I named the lone Mute Swan on Bird Point Triumph

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